Just wondering what the difference was between a closed cut valley and a woven valley? Also how can you tell by looking at the roof which one was used?
A woven valley stands out.I don't like woven valleys at all,I think they look unfinished.A closed valley is cut down the middle.Very easy to tell the difference.My preference is an open metal valley.
Well you're wrong!
metal valleys suck!
you shouldn't be roofing!
(lol...just kidding! what's up J?)
BTW, my preference is for the closed valley.
Heh Steve!You old farts don't like open valleys too stuck on the old methods,lol.Just puttin along trying to make a living in this cutthroat market.How about you,heard you were going Omish,lol
Ahh, I'll see what the deal is.
They don't allow illegals over there,
so there's better pay for roofers.
Might sub out there.
It's sick in NY.
Sometimes I think of staying here and just buckle down and really compete with the GC's that call themselves roofers just out of spite, but like I said, I'm looking for that good country life man.
Check your PM's.
Yeah I know what you mean.Google Chilliwack,British Columbia.I got it pretty good here.Just the kinda spot your looking for.I'll put you to work,lol.Take care
How about a EPDM rubber valley? Now that might get people talking!
Closed and woven look 70's and earlier around here..people dont want them..
I thought the 70's were fun, at least what I can remember of it
A new marketing idea?
I like closed not so much woven all the way to the top tho. The arc valleys look awesome from the rooftop imo.
Everytime I ripped out a metal valley there was bad wood and leaks and the homeowners wanted the closed valley installed the next time around. I got cut once on that crap metal it was all rusty and ouch....
A few times it was that crap aluminum metal that was like aluminum foil in there lot of good thats gonna do.
All your valley metals r belong in the dump.
Personal opinion here, but I don't like the look of an open metal valley & don't usually do a weave unless someone asks me (you go, girlfriend!... ain't no weave 'round here!)
We also call 'em a "California Cutback" & most - i.e. 95% or more - of the valleys in a Dimensional have a dimensional shingle laid along the valley cut.
SYS,next time you tear out a metal valley that has been leaking, take a close look to see what they did wrong. It's not the method that's the problem, it's the installer.
I like closed also, but some shingles don't allow for it, like grand manor. I have seen a closed valley with presidentials that looked good. I think 16 OZ copper sure makes a nice open valley.
For high end shingles open valley either copper or pre painted.
As far as 30-50 year lamiantes closed one cut valley is all I do. In the Wintertime it's tough in MN with a closed valley with the Landmark TL but it can be done. If you don't watch your first roof you can get ugly build up.
Check you PM's.
Well i guess you guys south of us either use paper thin metal or JUST DONT KNOW HOW to install metal valleys,i mean whats gonna last longer 26g painted metal or a shingle?...hhmmm :roll:
all 3 ways work just fine.