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Hello everyone, I had a quick question: What are the best durable and Best shingles out there. They also must offer a lifetime warranty. Which ones out there are the ones that most pro roofers (like you guys) use?

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If I was looking for the best, and longest lasting, and one of the best looking... Decra would be in my top 3.


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GAF Grand Canyon:



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GAF Capstone:



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Nice, do you do all those agape?


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I sell and put them on... not very often. yes. Am doing decra on new construction in a couple of weeks. i really really like the capstone. lays down awesome, and really looks unique.


those arent my pics however. i just grabbed em off the net.

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Definitely DECRA. We are doing one in 2 months.

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Got to agree with Josh and Jason on this 1 DECRA is top of the line only put them on once would like to do more :D


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Decra is a really nice product but ive never installed it.

I just did my first Landmark TL roof and i really like the product. very thick, great colors and is a 50 year/lifetime? shingle. only disadvantage is it is slower to install so i would charge more labor for it. Also you must have the shingles warm before you put them on and you CANT bend them or they will break in the middle because of the three layers. other then the basic precautions they look amazing and really stand out. they are thick just like presidential but easier to install. but again, Just much slower then 30-40 year.

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[quote="RickRoofer"]Hello everyone, I had a quick question: What are the best durable and Best shingles out there. They also must offer a lifetime warranty. Which ones out there are the ones that most pro roofers (like you guys) use?

Decra is nice for a metal roof but not a shingle.T/L shingles are considered Lifetime. Who's life I am still tring to figure that out? The ones I feel are the best are the Presidential and/or the Grand Canyon
Because the tabs cover the seams adding more protection then the Landmarks. The landmarks are easier to install.

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Gatesroofing wrote:
Decra is a really nice product but ive never installed it.

I just did my first Landmark TL roof and i really like the product. very thick, great colors and is a 50 year/lifetime? shingle. only disadvantage is it is slower to install so i would charge more labor for it. Also you must have the shingles warm before you put them on and you CANT bend them or they will break in the middle because of the three layers. other then the basic precautions they look amazing and really stand out. they are thick just like presidential but easier to install. but again, Just much slower then 30-40 year.




Where on a roof would you be bending them?


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Smlslikmonyrfing wrote:
Decra is nice for a metal roof but not a shingle.



Decra isnt a shingle?


What is it then?

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decra is a metal shingle.
dont walk on it.
its allrite i guess.

gaf for fiberglass shingles


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There's Decra batten system (villa tile) and regular shingle. It has granules and looks like a shingle.

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lol. i know its a metal shingle. thats what im saying. even tho its metal, its still a shingle. i pictured the wood shake looking decra.

and you can walk on them just fine. just have to try to put most of your weight at the top of the shingle. ive been on a few, never dented one, and im 240-250lbs depending on what i eat for lunch.

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My mistake, I have always thought of them as a metal roof simulating a tile or shake apearance. Never knew they had a shingle looking style.

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Well today I installed some GAF Prestique 40's, this is the first time in I don't even remember when (it's been a while) that I have installed a GAF shingle.

All I can say is that I am thoroughly unimpressed...

The only thing consistent about these shingles was their inconsistency...

They all varied in height, some were 13 1/4" like they should be, those were the minority...
The rest varied from 12 3/4" up to 13 1/8, these were by far the majority of them.
On some of them there was a 1/4" difference from one end to the other.

How somebody can lay these out straight is beyond me.
We snap lines 22 1/4" apart, this gives us 1/4" of slop to work with over 4 shingles.
There were a few lines that were 1/2" off.
I checked the lines to make sure we didn't make a mistake and the lines were dead on.
This is a 1/2" off over 4 shingles, after we already gave them 1/4" of slop...

I personally cut the stagger pieces and followed the package instructions to the letter, 6", 11", 17".
What I got for my trouble and anal ways was a bunch of staggers that were less than 5"...
Not only am I not happy about this I am kinda pissed...

I have had problems like this with GAF shingles in the past, which is why I don't like them and don't sell them.
Maybe this was a bad batch I don't know.
What I do know is that not only won't I sell them I will strongly recommend against them.
I don't remember them being this bad.

And boy were they thin.
This is supposed to be a 40 yr shingle and it is thinner than a Landmark 30.
I am confident that a Landmark 30 is going to far out last the shingle I installed today.

It was bad.
Really bad.
This is going to leave a bad taste in my mouth for quite a while.

I thought the Prestique line was supposed to be better than the natural shadows, if this is the case I would hate to see what they did to the natural shadows.
My Lord it was bad.

I think somebody needs to weigh these shingles and see what they really weigh.
jeez.

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