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Rooster99




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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: IKO Roofshake 40yr vs GAF/ELK Timberline Prestique 40yr Reply with quote

From what I read here IKO are not very popular and GAF/ELK are, but sometimes the opinions on specific models of things can vary from the overall opinion. Any thoughts on the shingles above? The contractor is recommending the GAF/ELK.

I'm in Vancouver, and it's a complete tearoff with all new deck. We're getting ridge venting and intend to live in this house until they carry us out. Not usre if this all matters, but wanted to be sure you had correct background.

TIA - R.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAF no comment other than that.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAF


and I think 40 year shingles are a waste of money. Either get the 30, or the 50.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agape wrote:
GAF


and I think 40 year shingles are a waste of money. Either get the 30, or the 50.
Agreed
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: IKO Roofshake 40yr vs GAF/ELK Timberline Prestique 40yr Reply with quote

Rooster99 wrote:
From what I read here IKO are not very popular and GAF/ELK are, but sometimes the opinions on specific models of things can vary from the overall opinion. Any thoughts on the shingles above? The contractor is recommending the GAF/ELK.

I'm in Vancouver, and it's a complete tearoff with all new deck. We're getting ridge venting and intend to live in this house until they carry us out. Not usre if this all matters, but wanted to be sure you had correct background.

TIA - R.


Being in Vancouver your GAF/Elk will be coming out of the Shafter/Fontana plant, and the IKO will come from Sumas. This is noteworthy for two reasons.

1. Most of the people I've seen claiming IKO shingles have problems are from back east. They are not getting their shingles from the Sumas plant which you would be. I have to believe this makes a difference based on the difference of what I see reported on here, and what I have experienced hands on.

2. You will not be able to get a Timberline Prestique 40 shingle with an algae resistant component out of Shafter, or 30 or Lifetime for that matter. At Least here in the Pacific Northwest we cannot. They flat refuse to discuss it.

I would recommend out of the two brands that you mention, go with the IKO Roofshake 40 if it's available with the algae resistant component in Canada(I assume you meant Vancouver, BC) if not then I would recommend you upgrade to the IKO Cambridge LT, which does have the algae resistant copper granule. Vancouver is not too far from Seattle, and we get a lot of black algae here. The algae resistant shingle should reduce your maintenance and keep your new roof looking pretty for a longer period of time.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two more things that I think are worth noting:

The other responses here pretty succinctly state "GAF". You will not be getting the GAF Timberline shingle that they may be familiar with, you will be getting the Elk Prestiqe High Definition 40 Shingle. This is a great shingle, I put it on my own house, but it's not GAF in the strictest terms. GAF bought out Elk a couple of years back because (I've been told) of the patented granule distribution/color that Elk had on their product that was basically kicking the other manufacturers asses. It's a very distinctive look that gives the shingle a lot of depth. They also do something interesting with the backsurfacing on the 40 and lifetime versions that make the shingle look thicker. I still think the algae resistant component outweighs the potential aesthetic gain and would go with the IKO product.

You may also get a better wind warranty with the IKO Cambridge LT, (130 mph when it's 6 nailed and you use their starter and ridge).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

Get Malarkey. Legacy's are 50 year and 100 or 110 mph wind warranty.

JMO

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look i had the head guy from IKO come from Toronto drive all the way to the detroit area to fidn out something, cant not say what since we made a deal. Either way I showed him his product on several homes and nough said. He was a nice man. Very nice. But i will say this. Becareful what you say about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gtp1003 wrote:
Look i had the head guy from IKO come from Toronto drive all the way to the detroit area to fidn out something, cant not say what since we made a deal. Either way I showed him his product on several homes and nough said. He was a nice man. Very nice. But i will say this. Becareful what you say about it.


give me a f-in break ...you had the head guy from iko drive from TO to see your jobs .ya right
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gtp1003 wrote:
Look i had the head guy from IKO come from Toronto drive all the way to the detroit area to fidn out something, cant not say what since we made a deal. Either way I showed him his product on several homes and nough said. He was a nice man. Very nice. But i will say this. Becareful what you say about it.



why would you even post something so vague?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roofboy wrote:
Hello,

Get Malarkey. Legacy's are 50 year and 100 or 110 mph wind warranty.

JMO

Keith
ditto Very Happy
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Downunder Roofing




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IKO Roofer.... You speak alot of sense with the algae resistant talk! New zealand is alot like the north west in that the roofs attract ALOT of algae.

I use PABCO shingles because of the algae resistant warranty, and also because there 30 year shingles have the biggest sealing strip(30 year shingles are 90% of the new zealand market) the area im in has some HUGE winds so i cant go wrong with the pabco.

Case and point.... an ELK shingle was installed just around the corner from my house 3 and half years ago (i now know the owner) and it all ready has a heap of alge staining.. it looks super ugly.

Gaf/elk are not a real bad product, i just get confused as to why so many people swear by it? is it just because ofthe companys share size?

some people wear BEER goggles, and some wear GALF/ELK goggles Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha downunder.

I tell you I swear by it ONLY because I swore by ELK. I was not a big fan of GAF before they merged but since they did I have had zero call backs because of any problems with the shingle itself. Usually it has always been the install. In 5 years when they have been merged for awhile ask me if I still swear by them. I do not know.
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