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skiconstr




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Tamko Shingles Reply with quote

I have customer that I did a consult on this week. They had Tamko shingles installed 3 years ago. The shingles are actually sliding down and buckling in spots. There are also a few areas where the laminate is coming apart from the shingle. Obviously they are architechurals. Has any of you guys run into something similar? Is it a defect? It appears as though they were nailed properly I will get more of an answer to that this weekend I need to remove a shingle so that they can send it to Tamko.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the nails are in the correct place then i would have to guess a bad set of shingles.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

What pitch is the roof?

If they are nailed right how could they seperate?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, what Lefty said.

Archs cannot slide if theyre nailed properly.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AaronB. wrote:
Yeah, what Lefty said.

Archs cannot slide if theyre nailed properly.


Never over estimate the quality of Tamko Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to me a tamko runs in line with IKO. If the nails are in the right spot it has to be bad shingles if the nails are in the wrong spot then it is the nailing pattern
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the actually shingle is coming apart at the two layers in some areas also.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the shingles are delaminating, then it sounds like a manufacturing problem. I would work with Tamko on the issue, when I used to deal with them they were a family-owned business and were a good company to deal with. I had problems with their mod. bit. once, during the calendaring process a defect occurred where plugs were taken out of the surface of the membrane. We sent them photos, and they took care of the problem.

As for gtp1003's assertion that Tamko is equivalent to IKO, that is just not true. Generally speaking, Tamko makes fairly good asphalt products for roofing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cerberus wrote:
If the shingles are delaminating, then it sounds like a manufacturing problem. I would work with Tamko on the issue, when I used to deal with them they were a family-owned business and were a good company to deal with. I had problems with their mod. bit. once, during the calendaring process a defect occurred where plugs were taken out of the surface of the membrane. We sent them photos, and they took care of the problem.

As for gtp1003's assertion that Tamko is equivalent to IKO, that is just not true. Generally speaking, Tamko makes fairly good asphalt products for roofing.


This must mean one of two things, you either get diffrent material than what we get here in the Indy area, or you dont know what a quality product is.

Not trying to be an @SS about it, but the quality of the Tamko material is terriable.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think it is in that area of junk sorry if that offends you.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, maybe they send junk up to you guys! Razz

Seriously, I haven't used Tamko shingles in a long time, and don't come across their mod. bit. too often. There mod. bit. still seems to be alright, but I really can't comment on the shingles nowadays. As for them shipping us different products here, that may actually be true. Tamko stands for (Texas, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma), which was their original sales area. It is quite possible that as they've expanded their material quality has dropped. At any rate, I'm still an Elk man when it comes to shingles.
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skiconstr




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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys didn't mean to start a TAMKO war just was curious I have there claims department and I am gonnna spend sometime on the phone Monday to see if I can't help the customer get this problem resolved.
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dvorth




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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you ever find out anything on the sliding shingles? We are seeing the same thing.......
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is regarding Tamko premium shingles. We had them installed on our roof. We added a room onto our home and then reroofed the entire home. The shingles are horrible. I have contacted Tamko - had a rep come out andlook at the problem. He said they were definitely defective. I was sent a kit to send in and completed all requests for defective product and also pictures of the horrible roof product. This has been going on for at least 6 months now. I have just been informed by Tamko claims dept that my claim has been denied. Was told that their shingles are supposed to look that way and lift and separate and roll up. The roof was put on by a certified roofer and looks like C$%P! I wish some of you could see the horrible way my NEW roof looks. I am in the process of contacting management for this problem. I caution anyone thinking about using TAMKO products to be wary. They are horrible. You will not be happy with the way your roof looks.
Anyone who has any informationthat will help me please send my way. Thanks
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ed the roofer




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see some photos posted of the problem shingles.

I use the Tamko Heritage Architecturals about 90 % of the time and so not have any issues with them at all.

Usually when the laminate is sliding, that indicates a steep pitch that was not properly 6 nailed or a regular pitch that was not 4 nailed in the nail zone area.

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